Hero battles removed, wtf - Guild Wars Forums

Archedgar · Oct 18, 2010, 08:42 AM // 08:42

I registered on this site a long time ago and I recently came back to Guild Wars to see how things had changed in my absence.

I played some matches in RA and then decided to check out my old stomping grounds and much to my extreme chagrin

THEY WERE REMOVED ENTIRELY

What the @#*&#$%

Is this what I should expect from Guild Wars 2? developer laziness? I did a search and the most recent topic about this was closed because of what I perceived as too much (out)rage by everyone who commented.

So, is there anyone who knows what the real reason for the total removal of one of the games' best modes was?

End · Oct 18, 2010, 08:45 AM // 08:45

Apart from the fact that it was impossible to balance?

Anyways... I expect this to be closed shortly too.

Archedgar · Oct 18, 2010, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by End

Apart from the fact that it was impossible to balance?

Anyways... I expect this to be closed shortly too.

Well that's always a good answer. Except for the part where it isn't.

I remember purchasing Nightfall years ago and being excited at playing the new arena. I can't even begin to understand why they'd remove it. "Balance" is not an answer, there were tournaments where very different builds were ran by players that resulted in even matches.

End · Oct 18, 2010, 08:56 AM // 08:56

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Originally Posted by Archedgar

Well that's always a good answer. Except for the part where it isn't.

I remember purchasing Nightfall years ago and being excited at playing the new arena. I can't even begin to understand why they'd remove it. "Balance" is not an answer, there were tournaments where very different builds were ran by players that resulted in even matches.

You must have played before the tounreys were a joke to the point where finals took place and both people brought joke builds because the balance was so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed

Horace Slughorn · Oct 18, 2010, 08:57 AM // 08:57

because everyone resigned in hero battles if they were red to farm zaishen quest and commander points... and it wasn't worth fixing

BlackSephir · Oct 18, 2010, 09:11 AM // 09:11

It was a bad format.
Bad things go away.

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one of the games' best modes

You really hate GW, don't you?

Asda che ti Passa · Oct 18, 2010, 09:12 AM // 09:12

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Originally Posted by Archedgar

THEY WERE REMOVED ENTIRELY

Good Morning^^

BLOODGOAT · Oct 18, 2010, 09:13 AM // 09:13

It was exploited by Zaishen Combat on HB days for massive ZKey farming.

Sirius Bsns · Oct 18, 2010, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Wow, you've been gone for quite some time! Also, Anet's simple solution to a complex problem:

Missing HB · Oct 18, 2010, 09:33 AM // 09:33

This thread going to be closed fast anyway , once again all people who never even went there are arguing here...
Well , real reason is that it was unfixable( and not resigns , RR , which happened after it was announced !!) and that they wanted to do some sealed deck arena .
However , what i don't get is that if they really don't care of PvP , why did they delete it and add codex arena seriously .....

But yes , what you can just expect from GW 2 imo is just that it will be a great game for PvE part with no doubt , but for PvP .. well emrm.. i suggest not to buy it only for pvp ....

off topic : is there a reason 3/4 of henchmen contest winners are in [ZoS]?

Elnino · Oct 18, 2010, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by Archedgar

So, is there anyone who knows what the real reason for the total removal of one of the games' best modes was?

Anet never liked Hero Battles. Period.

snowman relic · Oct 18, 2010, 10:08 AM // 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sirius Bsns

Wow, you've been gone for quite some time! Also, Anet's simple solution to a codex problem:

Fixed 12charrs

Archedgar · Oct 18, 2010, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by Elnino

Anet never liked Hero Battles. Period.

Oh? It has a major selling point(according to the advertising) of the Nightfall expansion.

In fact I remember it being "THE" selling point aside from the Dervish and Paragon classes. I wager to say that Arena net and NC soft completely forgot the original idea behind Guild Wars.

It was built from the ground up as a PvP game, but it seems they forgot about that and turned it into some lame PvE game since they completely closed my two favorite arenas for no real reason.

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But yes , what you can just expect from GW 2 imo is just that it will be a great game for PvE part with no doubt , but for PvP .. well emrm.. i suggest not to buy it only for pvp ....

I hope this person isn't right, but he probably is.

Sigh. Stupid developers losing sight of what really matters.

kedde · Oct 18, 2010, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Lol, it's this guy again.

killerbot3009 · Oct 18, 2010, 11:08 AM // 11:08

lol, hero battles could be fixed easily. that was the main reason it was removed. unbalanced, unfair, very easy to out cap with certain build which just relied on you not taking any dmg. tbh, i do miss hero battles a little, but codex arena was definatly a better add on to the game imo.

lodgeinator · Oct 18, 2010, 12:09 PM // 12:09

The great thing about hero battles was that you didnt have to form a party to have a game, which allowed you to get into matches faster. With codex you have to form a party and the outpost if pretty empty unless it is a quest day.

Luminarus · Oct 18, 2010, 12:23 PM // 12:23

HB was like RA without the scrubs on your team. Admittedly it was slightly different because it was cap rather then a death match, but still very much like RA interms of quick to set up, fun and relatively easy.

Im all for bringing it back, I was very disappointed at removing it. Remove the title, and remove the Z-Combat quest and youve got a good arena, that noones going to waste time red resigning on because they gain nothing from it.

dasmitchies · Oct 18, 2010, 12:37 PM // 12:37

Guild Wars PVP LAWLs

Roen · Oct 18, 2010, 12:42 PM // 12:42

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Originally Posted by Archedgar

Sigh. Stupid developers losing sight of what really matters.

LOL. Yeah! Stupid developers. They could write a game that has 10% as many players if they were smart.

RedDog91 · Oct 18, 2010, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Ah Hero Battles.
I can't even count the times I've been called a noob for not resigning when I was red. Turns out most people didn't even have builds loaded onto their heroes cuz they expected each match to end with someone resigning within the first 5 seconds. I won a lot.

Oct 18, 2010, 08:42 AM // 08:42	#1
Archedgar Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2007	Hero battles removed, wtf I registered on this site a long time ago and I recently came back to Guild Wars to see how things had changed in my absence. I played some matches in RA and then decided to check out my old stomping grounds and much to my extreme chagrin THEY WERE REMOVED ENTIRELY What the @#&#$% Is this what I should expect from Guild Wars 2? developer laziness? I did a search and the most recent topic about this was closed because of what I perceived as too much (out)rage by everyone who commented. So, is there anyone who knows what the real* reason for the total removal of one of the games' best modes was?

Oct 18, 2010, 09:17 AM // 09:17	#9
Sirius Bsns Banned Join Date: May 2010 Guild: PonG Profession: W/Mo	Wow, you've been gone for quite some time! Also, Anet's simple solution to a complex problem: Last edited by Sirius Bsns; Oct 18, 2010 at 09:19 AM // 09:19..

Oct 18, 2010, 09:33 AM // 09:33	#10
Missing HB Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2010 Guild: Anna Profession: A/	This thread going to be closed fast anyway , once again all people who never even went there are arguing here... Well , real reason is that it was unfixable( and not resigns , RR , which happened after it was announced !!) and that they wanted to do some sealed deck arena . However , what i don't get is that if they really don't care of PvP , why did they delete it and add codex arena seriously ..... But yes , what you can just expect from GW 2 imo is just that it will be a great game for PvE part with no doubt , but for PvP .. well emrm.. i suggest not to buy it only for pvp .... off topic : is there a reason 3/4 of henchmen contest winners are in [ZoS]? Last edited by Missing HB; Oct 18, 2010 at 09:45 AM // 09:45..

Oct 18, 2010, 08:45 AM // 08:45	#2
End Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rubbing Potassium on water fountains. Guild: LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember) Profession: N/A	Apart from the fact that it was impossible to balance? Anyways... I expect this to be closed shortly too.

Oct 18, 2010, 08:57 AM // 08:57	#5
Horace Slughorn Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2008 Guild: Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU] Profession: W/	because everyone resigned in hero battles if they were red to farm zaishen quest and commander points... and it wasn't worth fixing

Oct 18, 2010, 09:13 AM // 09:13	#8
BLOODGOAT Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: long a Profession: Mo/	It was exploited by Zaishen Combat on HB days for massive ZKey farming.

Oct 18, 2010, 11:03 AM // 11:03	#14
kedde Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban] Profession: Mo/A	Lol, it's this guy again.

Oct 18, 2010, 11:08 AM // 11:08	#15
killerbot3009 Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: the beaster Guild: the Gold Fish [GOLD] Profession: W/	lol, hero battles could be fixed easily. that was the main reason it was removed. unbalanced, unfair, very easy to out cap with certain build which just relied on you not taking any dmg. tbh, i do miss hero battles a little, but codex arena was definatly a better add on to the game imo.

Oct 18, 2010, 12:09 PM // 12:09	#16
lodgeinator Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2007	The great thing about hero battles was that you didnt have to form a party to have a game, which allowed you to get into matches faster. With codex you have to form a party and the outpost if pretty empty unless it is a quest day.

Oct 18, 2010, 12:23 PM // 12:23	#17
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	HB was like RA without the scrubs on your team. Admittedly it was slightly different because it was cap rather then a death match, but still very much like RA interms of quick to set up, fun and relatively easy. Im all for bringing it back, I was very disappointed at removing it. Remove the title, and remove the Z-Combat quest and youve got a good arena, that noones going to waste time red resigning on because they gain nothing from it.

Oct 18, 2010, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#18
dasmitchies Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: W/P	Guild Wars PVP LAWLs

Oct 18, 2010, 12:59 PM // 12:59	#20
RedDog91 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Farming for Nick gifts Profession: R/	Ah Hero Battles. I can't even count the times I've been called a noob for not resigning when I was red. Turns out most people didn't even have builds loaded onto their heroes cuz they expected each match to end with someone resigning within the first 5 seconds. I won a lot.